In this episode of New Ideal, Ben Bayer and Agustina Vergara Cid discuss Donald Trump’s promise to enact mass deportations of millions of illegal immigrants.
Among the topics covered:
How Trump’s plan to enact mass deportations would have massive costs
Why the Alien Enemies Act does not justify mass deportations
How the Alien Enemies Act would grant Trump immense new powers
Why mass deportations would fail to secure our borders or enhance national security
Why mass deportations would threaten the rights of American citizens
The importance of respecting the rule of law while also treating peaceful illegal immigrants justly
Mentioned in this podcast is the New Ideal podcast episode with Ben Bayer and Agustina Vergara Cid “The Absurdity of Calling the U.S.-Mexico Border Crisis an ‘Invasion.’”
The podcast was recorded on December 5, 2024, and posted on December 6, 2024. Listen and subscribe wherever you get your podcasts. Watch archived podcasts here.
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